www.stourbridge.com
- our view:
The fact that
the first locomotive to run in the United States was built here in Stourbridge
is a source of great pride to local people, it is one of those fundamental
things that define the town. But the fact that the foundry where the Lion
was built still stands is nothing short of incredible, and for years only
a handful of people were aware of this extraordinary legacy. The saddest thing
of all would be to say to the young people of Stourbridge in years to come
that we allowed it to be demolished. Save the old foundry - save the town's
identity!
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The Old Foundry
under threat - your views:
They're still
coming in - Thank you! This really does show the strength of feeling for the
preservation of this amazing building.
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Hello,
I've just been on the Stourbridge website and seen the part about the old
foundry where the Stourbridge Lion was made. In my opionion, to save the building,
it wouldn't matter what use the building was put to. Whether it be an information
centre for the area, used for educational purposes. Changed into a social
enviroment with a nice restaurant and coffee/cocktail lounges. A new house
for a state of the art library. Converted into residential property.
To save the building would be amazing, it has really value and history.
All the best. Ian (Rec'd 29 Apr 09)
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I support the proposed preservation of this historic
building, providing it will be used as an area which will benefit the whole
community of Stourbridge through workshops, business or community arts/museum
type projects. I do not support the idea of a huge medical centre or sports
centre as these do not reflect the past heritage of the buildings on this
site. I believe that the American Stourbridge Lion enthusiasts would support
projects which pay tribute to the work of Foster Rastrick & co and that
something along these lines I have described would bring in funding/visitors
from the States. Stourbridge is in economic decline and needs projects like
this one to regenerate the town. I do not see how the proposed surgery or
sports centre would do this. I feel very strongly about this and would be
happy to take partin any campaign. Helen Plaice (Rec'd 19th Sep 08)
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My name is James, I'm 18 and I live in Wollaston.
I came across the website about the old foundry in stourbridge and just wanted
to say that I support you and think that we should try and save the building.
History is very important and I would hate to see the building demolished.
I hope my e-mail makes a difference as I am assuming that you wouldn't usually
receive them from teens like myself. I have no real interest in trains or
anything to do with the building, I'm just a regular teenager that is proud
of where he is from. I want to make sure that this piece of my history isn't
demolished.
Thanks for reading. James
Oakley (Rec'd
21 Jan 08)
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I am shocked to hear that this most important
piece of local history is under threat. We
have lost far too many sites already (later regretted) – let’s
make sure this isn’t another one. Ian James BSc (Hons) MPWI. (Rec'd
12 Sep 07)
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I live in the same street as the old foundry and ive seen over the last 8
years how its gone down,it would be nice to see it back to how it used to
be,at the moment its a rat infested eyesore such a shame our historical building
are treated this way
N icola skelding (Rec'd 14 Sep 07)
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I believe that Stourbridge has not been given the opportunities
to expand on its historical heritage. We lost the chance for an open air canal/railway
centre when the Mill Race Lane industrial estate was built, I think that we
must use this chance to put the town on the map with this complex of historical
buildings, ideally located close to the Stour, the Stourbridge arm of the
canal and our beautifully restored Bonded Warehouse, these can all be amalgamated
into one site of local interest. Access to the site is already in position
by way of Lowndes Road and the towpath, already used on occasions for canal
rallies, Classic car shows etc. For goodness sake let us use the area for
use by the community now and forever and not lose it to more flash in the
pan money making schemes Would it even be possible to return Agenoria back
home ? after all it spent its working life in the vicinity . We desparately
need to sustain Stourbridge's history, we appear to be losing so much of it
as buildings like the Old Library, the Bank Buildings etc are being sold off
for goodness knows what, and now with the glass industry all but dead, we
have lost the very character of the once proud town.
Yours optimisticaly, Colin J Payne (Rec'd 27th July 07)
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Hi you have my support 100% on preserving the foundry it seems
to me to be fundamental for the history of the area surrounding Stourbridge.
Tony Caulfield. (Rec'd 24th July 07)
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I whole heartedly support the restoration of the Foster, Rastrick
Foundry. While it is important to have new and exciting developments, it is
essential to maintain our link to the past, especially through buildings of
such historic importance. I believe a good use for the main building
would be a hall for displays of local photography, art and crafts or even
amateur dramatics and small scale concerts in a similar manner to the suite
of rooms at Himley Hall or the upstairs gallery of the Dudley Museum. Stourbridge
is a large town with a proud history and should have
an appropriate building to represent this for community use without having
to travel to other venues. The Managers house would be ideal as a museum,
so that the historic importance of the building is not lost to future generations.
Surrounded by gardens and adequate parking the area could become a lovely
arena for the people of Stourbridge to relax in and while away a few hours.
If volunteers were needed to help I am sure I would not be the only person
in Stourbridge who would be willing to put in some work to help see the foundry
restored.
Dr Scott Porter, Ph.D. Msci, Stourbridge.
(Rec'd 19th Feb 07)
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I teach American history on invention and technology at Macomb
Community College in Warren, Michigan. I just wanted to say I hope you will
save this building! The Stourbridge Lion was a great achievement in American
technological history. The loss of such an important site would be very unfortunate.
Has anyone contacted The Henry Ford Museum in Dearborn, Michigan? Perhaps
they could help. Sincerely,
Ed Rice
(Rec'd 11th Feb 07)
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I work directly opposite the foundry. My office window
overlooks the derelict property and I see daily how scavengers and vandals
are abusing the now very sad site, and no-one seems interested if it is stolen
brick by brick. A
decision should be made by the local authority or the landowners as to what
will be done with this building and the surrounding land before it disappears
bits by bit and is beyond restoration. We have a photograph in the office
by Vic Careless and would like to see more examples of his work if possible.
Regards, Valerie Phipps, Personal Assistant
Laser Claddings Limited, Lowndes Road, Stourbridge
(Rec'd 6th Feb 07)
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As a former professor of building conservation I am shocked
that a building of such historical importance should be under threat. I have
a slight tenuous connection with Foster's works (and possibly with the "Lion"),
in that I inherited the diary of Francis Perks, tailor of Stourbridge for
the years 1823-1832 in which Foster's works are mentioned quite often. Possibly
in connection with the completion of the "Lion" Mr Foster ordered
of Francis Perks a new top coat. The diary entry for 7th April 1829 reads
"Men worked till 2 in morn to make Mr Foster a new top coat ordered at
5 at night." One would not get service like that today.
The diary entry for 31st October 1825 records "Mr W Foster began his
new Forg(e)" and there is a small, crude illustration of it. Another
entry describes how the diarist visited the James Foster's works while the
beams were being cast for the new library in London. These were for the British
Library. Some years ago the RIBA exhibition on structural ironwork started
that the beams for the British Library had been cast by Rastrick. I wrote
to tell them this was not so, and it was Foster. Shortly afterwards the British
Library caught fire. A photograph of the wreckage clearly showed each beamn
to be embossed with the word "Foster." The RIBA wrote back to say
"you didn't have to burn the place down to prove your point"!
Hopefully an abridged form of Francis Perks' diaries will be ready for publication
by Phillimore early in 2008. There is a lot about Foster's works in it. It
would be a pity if the building wasn't there. Richard Hugh Perks (Rec'd
4th Jan 07)
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As an inhabitant of Stourbridge and regular walker along the
canal adjacent to the former iron works of John Bradley and the Foster Rastrick
Foundry, it saddens me to see listed buildings in such a sorry state and still
under threat of demolition, when they surely could be incorporated as the
historic centre-piece of any new development. Saddest of all to me, since
it has long been visible from the canal, is the current state old manager's
house 'Riverside'. Until a couple of years ago, it was to all intents and
purposes in a good state, fully roofed. I think there was an agreement with
the local probation service whereby young offenders were employed regularly
to tend the gardens, so benefitting themselves and the local area. However,
since the closure of the last company on site, Riverside has been targeted
by arsonists and vandals, and is now a roofless, sorry looking, graffiti adorned
shell. The once well kept grounds are now an overgrown jungle. What a depressing
advert for Stourbridge town and Dudley Council. If the council cannot seize
the opportunity to restore these historic buildings as part of a wider canalside
heritage scheme, then perhaps it is time to dismantle them brick by brick
and ship them to the USA, where they will be much better appreciated and treated
with the respect they deserve.
Carl Higgs (Dec 06)
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I used to work at this site when it was Sidney Smith Castings, i visited the
site today to find most of the later buildings had been demolished. a sad
site. i have a massive interest in this site and wish to see the whole site
preserved and restored
please please contact me if i can be of any assistance in the restoration
of the works, my work will be completely voluntary, and at my own expense.
maybe i can help raise funds or volunteers to do this. Andy Dean (Oct
06)
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This is a part of our local history and should be cared for
properly. is there an opportunity to move it to a palce such as the black
country museum? Paul Griffiths (Oct 06)
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Please allow me to add my voice in support of all you
efforts to save the historic Foster, Rastrick & Co factory where the Stourbridge
Lion was built. Too much of our industrial heritage is being lost to so called
developers who only want to line their own pockets.How about a developer developing
the old factory into a true heritage centre for Stourbridge and Dudley metropolitan
borough. there should be ample prestige in such a venture to gladden the most
cynical of developers.Please save our historic factory.
Best of Luck, Peter Smith, Kingswinford.
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I wholeheartedly support you wish to have this important industrial building
restored.
Best Wishes George Richardson
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I now live in Cornwall and am an active member of the Trevithick
Society, and I am asking our society to give your campaign it's support, particularly
with the connection of Rastrick to Trevithick through Reynolds and Hazeldine.
I was born in Wordsley hospital and lived for most of forty years within a
few hundred yards of the line on which the Agenoria ran, and worked for some
time next to the foundry (at Ashfords ice cream). I have long had an interest
in industrial archaeology and feel that this foundry is of great importance
particularly for the following reasons: birthplace of the Lion and the roof
constuction of the "new foundry" building. I would like to keep
up to date with any developments and would like to offer to help with the
campaign as I do not wish the same fate to befall this building as the Nine
Locks engine house in Brierley Hill which I watched being demolished ( but
did manage to save one corner of the beam support casting!). All the best
with the campaign. Rod Thompson
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I am horrified
to learn from your website that this historic building is in danger of demolition.
So little remains of the engineering works of this period of our country's
history, when we led the world in innovation. If the local council allow this
hallowed site to be lost they deserve to be haunted by the ghost of Fred Dibnah
for eternity.
Peter Turvey www.stanleysteamcar.co.uk
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I'm sorry to hear that a wonderful historic relic is, in this day and age,
sadly so neglected that demolition was ever considered as an option.
I have just recently
visited the site, with my 7 year old son, as I wanted to impress upon him
that something of significance could be lost for ever, and he at least should
have had the opportunity to have seen it. I hope that your efforts assist
in retaining the building, and that it stands for at least another 176 years,
correctly placed as a building of historic significance in Great Britain.
John Farmer, Edmonton, Alberta, CANADA.
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Dear Sirs - I would like to add my support to the move to save the New
Foundry of Foster & Rastrick. This is the most important piece of
architecture in the Dudley MBC. (Grade 2 Star) and yet there is no clear
leadership on how it can be used for the benefit of the community. It
is in an ideal situation for development, forming the center of a community
space along the canal and River Stour. As a large flexible arena it could
be used for sport or art events, with the adjoining 'Managers House' Riverside
being the administrative/Museum centre In addition there is the garden
to 'Riverside' which is flanked by the river on one side and the canal
on the other, and contains the historically interesting dry dock, and
from which there is a lovely aspect to the 1821 Foundry Building. I can
think of no better place to spend a sunny summers afternoon. I have photos
of the site before many of the peripheral buildings were demolished. I
have also been researching the history of J U Rastrick and Foster, Rastricks
for many years. It produced items of all scales, and apart from the locomotives
provided iron beams for the British Museum, Somerset House, The General
Post Office (demolished 1927) and many country houses of that era. Some
of my information is available on two web sites. which can be accessed
from www.84f.com Dudley
MBC should be taking a clear initiative in this matter.
Tom Cockeram
Lecturer Stourbridge College
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Hi, Being the daughter of Sidney Smith who started the foundry many years
ago from the winnings of a football coupon, I read with interest the lack
of support you receive from the local council. My father and brothers tried
to expand the foundry business but were continually "knocked back"
by the council because of the "historical interest in the buildings".
Yet when the foundries have gone and many generations have lost their living
you can not find any funding to save the buildings. I find it very sad, as
I have many memories of the site from early childhood and my father continually
talked about the history of the foundry, but as a child it meant nothing.
Is the old house still standing beside the canal with the stables? I hope
you gain the support you require to retain the history. Anita Edwards
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Of course I agree and warmly support the preservation of the Old Foundry and
the idea to reconvert it into a multifunctional heritage centre for Stourbridge.
It would be a true asset and selling point for the historic town.
Thank you for your cooperation,
Regards, Matthias Benjamins (Netherlands)
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Dear Sirs - I like many other residents of Stourbridge are extremely concerned
by the state of this most important building which after restoration could
bring immense benefits to the town with many visitors worldwide coming to
the town and its environs as they do at the Ironbridge gorge-which provides
most of the employment in the area. I like many others would be prepared to
give a donation to help save this building. The setting in the valley and
the adjacent canals could be made into an extremely attractive leisure area
and could be incorporated into a ticket scheme to see the Dudley Zoo, the
Black Country Musuem and other attractions.
Please don't let the building deteriate any further and lose something which
could really add pride back to the town and the area.
Yours concerned, Mr J.R.Wadhams
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Got home from work this evening and my wife mentioned the article on Midlands
Today re the potential loss Stourbridge Lion foundry. Had it not been that
only a couple of days ago I was scanning in some old photos, she would never
have heard of the Lion...
I am Stourbridge born, although now live away from the town due to work commitments.
We recently moved back to Stourbridge, only to move away again a few years
later. A decade or more ago, I spent many weeks in the US, again through work.
One weekend while staying in New York, I decided to take a trip to Honesdale
(a few hunderd miles as I recall) to see "The Lion" - hence the
photos.
The contrast between how we look after our heritage, and how the Americans
do things, could not be greater. What little heritage they do have, they guard
preciously. In the UK, like much of Europe, we are complacent about what we
have around us. To go to the time and effort to build a full size replica
engine, and to put the original in as place as grand as the Smithsonian, shows
how important this engine is to US heritage.
Stourbridge today is not the town it once was - it's identity having been
absorbed into WM connurbation, it's town centre constricted by the ring road
and finally strangled by Merry Hill. It's heritage is therefore of even more
importance to the generations to come, so they can appreciate the importance
of the place to the industrial heritage of the most powerful nation on earth.
I am pleased to offer my support to help preserve the foundry building, and
hope that it can provide an opportunity for future generations of Stourbridge
children to become aware of the Lion and it's significance.
Dave Layland BSc ARCS Edingale Staffs
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I think
the foundry should be saved, and turned into some kind of museum, its our
history, our heritage !
regards, DJ Biggles
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The Listed buildings around the Stourbridge Arm Canal are all very important
and closely associated with each other, none more so than the Old Foundry
and all, as their status decrees, must be kept. The Bonded Warehouse was to
be demolished in 1981 and was saved to become one of the most visited attractions
in Stourbridge.
The West Midlands Historic Buildings Trust would support any progress towards
the foundry buildings being brought back into use.
Alan T Smith MBE, Chairman.
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Sir, On behalf
the Delaware & Hudson Canal Heritage Corridor Alliance I wish to express
our support for your efforts in trying to preserve the Stourbridge Foundry
which produced the Stourbridge Lion. In these days of haste and waste
it is most laudable, on your part, to protect, preserve and defend such
a historical site. One suggestion, if all else fails, sometimes historic
buildings can be saved by keeping intact the façade and having
the interior segmented for multiple uses, one of which is for historic
interpretation of the building and its former use.
An ocean may separate
us in body but we are of the same mind and wish you well in this pursuit.
Sincerely yours,
Andrew Helgesen, Chairman, D&H Canal HCA (USA)
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Dr. Collins,
I heartily endorse saving the Old Foundry for the
benefit of future generations.
Yours
Sincerely, Steve Mitchell
Course Leader,
Project Management, Yorkshire First
Leeds Met. University
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It would be a tragedy
to lose the Foster, Rastrick Foundry where the Stourbridge Lion was born.The
building might be in a poor state at present, but by itself that’s no
reason to demolish. We don’t need to look very far to see examples of
what can be done to give a new lease of life to redundant historic buildings
– the Bonded Warehouse and Canal Company Offices both in Canal Street,
and now the Harris & Pearson building in Brettell Lane, are all prime
examples of abandoned buildings now returned to beneficial use. Here’s
hoping the owners can give consideration to finding a viable future use for
the foundry building – perhaps taking inspiration from a visit to the
three neighbouring buildings that have been saved through sympathetic conservation
projects.Regards - David Trevis-Smith
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I've just been looking at your excellent web pages and am horrified
that such an important building as the foundry which produced the Stourbridge
Lion should be on the brink of destruction. This must not be allowed to happen!
Please add this message to the others you are collecting in support
of your campaign to save it. Stourbridge has lost so much of its heritage
over the last 30 years (and its "amalgamation" with Dudley) and
it would be unforgivable to lose this place now that its importance has been
recognised at last.
Very best wishes, and good luck for the future,
Alison Wright
(Born and brought up in Stourbridge, living in Devon since 1982)
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Hi Stourbridge.com, I'd
just like to add my support to the campaign to save the Lion's home! Thankyou,
Sally Fallon
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The building where The Stourbridge Lion, the first steam locomotive
to run in the USA was built is of great interest and should be saved and re-utilised.
The building is of significance in itself ,due to its construction and its
extreme longevity as a foundry building. I believe it is a very important
monument to our area's world significance in the history of The Industrial
Revolution. SIMON MILLS
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We at the Society
are distressed to hear of the stated demolition of the Stourbridge Foundry.
As you may be aware, this year marks the 175th anniversary of the running
of the Lion for the Delaware and Hudson Canal Company’s gravity railroad.
In August, the Wayne County Historical Society, Carbondale Historical Society,
and Waymart Area Historical Society held a symposium to commemorate that momentous
occasion.
We at the D&H
Canal Historical Society feel that the Stourbridge Foundry is an important
link in the historical events that surround the Delaware and Hudson Canal
and Gravity Railroad. Indeed, the Lion entered the port of Kingston, New York
and floated down the Canal to Honesdale, Pennsylvania-directly past the front
door of our Museum. The purchase and subsequent use of the Stourbridge Lion
mark a significant turning point in the advance of steam locomotion in the
United States and are responsible for the D&H being considered an innovator
in technology, engineering, and transportation in 19th Century America. The
Lion contributed enormously to the Industrial Revolution in the United States.
As a member of
the Executive Committee of the D&H Transportation Heritage Council and
on behalf of the D&H Canal Historical Society and the D&H Canal Heritage
Corridor Alliance, I offer you our full support in protecting this important
landmark and in creating an alliance between our two countries.
Regards,
Jeanne M. Bollendorf, Executive Director
Delaware & Hudson Canal Historical Society (USA)
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It has come to my attention that the foundry
where the Stourbridge Lion was built is in severe disrepair and that this
historic building is under threat of demolition. On behalf of the Board of
Trustees of the Neversink Valley Area Museum I would strongly encourage the
local Council to take all possible actions to save this unique piece of history.
The Neversink Valley
Area Museum is located in Orange County, New York in an historic building
in the County’s D&H Canal Park. Over 175 years ago the carpenter
who lived in our present headquarters would have watched as a canal boat transporting
the Stourbridge Lion to Pennsylvania passed over the Neversink River Aqueduct.
We are very much aware of the importance of this historic event and know that
losing the Stourbridge foundry would diminish our shared cultural legacy.
I am pleased that you are working diligently to preserve this
important resource and want to offer any assistance we can provide from this
side of the Atlantic in achieving our mutual goal.
Sincerely yours,
Stephen Skye, President, Board of Trustees
Neversink Valley Area Museum (USA)
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